IN THE COURT OF THE GENERAL SESSIONS OF THE PEACE

THE QUEEN vs. JAMES MARSHALL HENDRIX

Before: His Honour JUDGE KELLY

APPEARANCES:

Mr. J. Malone for the Crown

Mr. J. O'Driscoll QC for the Accused

Court Room No. 15, Court House, University Avenue, Toronto

December 8-9, 1969.

EVIDENCE OF JAMES MARSHALL HENDRIX AND SHARON LAWRENCE.

NAME

HENDRIX, James Marshall

Dir. Ex. by Mr. O'Driscoll (Page 3)

Cr. Ex. by Mr. Malone (Page 22)

Re-Dir. Ex. by Mr. O'Driscoll (Page 36)

LAWRENCE, Sharon

Dir. Ex. by Mr. O'Driscoll (Page 38)

Cr. Ex. by Mr. Malone (Page 43)

DECEMBER 8, 1969.

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JAMES MARSHALL HENDRIX, Sworn.

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Mr. Hendrix, where do you live?

A. In New York City.

Q. And how old are you?

A. Twenty-seven.

Q. Are you married or single?

A. Single.

Q. Where were you born?

A. Seattle, Washington.

Q. Have you ever been convicted of a criminal offense, Mr. Hendrix?

A. No.

Q. You have told the court that you were born in Seattle, Washington. Do you know how long you lived

there?

A. Approximately, about 10 years.

Q. Where did you move to then?

A. I was living in Vancouver, British Columbia and California - Northern California.

Q. Did you eventually go back to Seattle, Washington?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you then go into the American Army?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you recall what year that was?

A. No.

Q. How long were you there?

A. Approximately, about 18 months.

Q. You were discharged?

A. Yes.

Q. For what reason?

A. For medical reasons.

Q. Did you have any kind of injury?

A. Yes. I hurt my back.

Q. How did you hurt your back?

A. I was in the First Airborne Unit. I made a jump and I landed wrong.

Q. Were you outside the United States while you were a member of the United States Army?

A. We had a few exercises in the Philippines and in Germany.

Q. After your discharge from the Army… Would this be… what - about '62, in about then?

A. Yes. That's correct.

Q. What did you do then?

A. I started playing all over the States, traveling with different groups, playing guitar, different bands and

different names.

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Q. And for up until what time did you do that?

A. Around '65; up until '65.

Q. And what happened in 1965?

A. I settled in the Village.

Q. When you say "the Village," you mean where?

A. Greenwich Village in New York City.

Q. And did you start a group of your own at this time?

A. Yes.

Q. And how long did you stay playing in Greenwich Village?

A. For about a year.

Q. Where did you go then?

A. Then I went to England to form another group of my own.

Q. And did certain people take you to England?

A. Yes.

Q. Who were they?

A. James Chandler and Michael Jeffries.

Q. And what was the group you formed when you got to England?

A. It was called the Jimi Hendrix Experience.

Q. And how many members were there in this group?

A. There were three of us.

Q. There was you; you play the guitar and also sing?

A. Yes. And there was a bass player and a drummer.

Q. And after going to England, did you stay in England or did you go to other places?

A. We traveled throughout Europe - Sweden - and finally we came to America, I believe in 1967. Early 1967.

Q. You came back to the States in '67?

A. I think it was '67. I'm not sure.

Q. When you came back to the United States what type of work did you do in the music field?

A. We played concert tours all over the States.

Q. Perhaps, for my benefit, at any rate, when you say "concert tour," what does this consist of?

A. You play different one-night stands in different cities every night. Say about four or five cities, then you

rest two or three days and I guess we do about 30 cities a tour.

Q. And can you tell us, do you know in these appearances, how many people you would be playing to each

time you performed?

A. I would say anywhere between five, 10 and 20 thousand.

Q. Were your musical endeavours confined to tours, or did you do other things in the music world as well?

A. We did a few guest spots on TV.

Q. Can you give me an example of -

A. We did Johnny Carson and we did Dick Cavett.

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Q. What about records?

A. We made four LPs, long playing records, and I am not sure how many singles we released in America - I

would say about eight.

Q. Did the LPs go over?

A. We had four gold records for the Lps.

Q. What does that mean?

A. It means they sell a million copies or more each record.

Q. Now, can you tell me, Mr. Hendrix, what perhaps some know, perhaps some don't, but what kind of

music do you call this; what do you classify it as?

A. I classify it as electronic blues.

Q. And this consists of you and your bass player and your drummer, and I think all of you sing on occasion,

do you?

A. On occasion.

Q. Did you receive some award in England in 1968?

A. Yes. We received a few awards.

Q. Did you, yourself, receive one?

A. Yes.

Q. What was that?

A. I can't remember.

Q. Something to do with playing the guitar?

A. I think so.

Q. Did you receive something like that in the United States in 1969 as well?

A. Yes. A few of them, yes.

Q. Now, I don't want to prolong this, but do I gather you have been the subject matter of articles in various

national magazines from time to time?

A. From time to time, yes.

Q. Now, as you stand before His Honour and the Gentlemen of the Jury today you are - the clothes that

you have on now, are they the usual type of clothing that you wear when you are on tour?

A. Not when we are actually playing on stage. When we are performing we have our stage clothes.

Q. There has been evidence from some of the Crown

witnesses that when you were at Malton Airport on May 3rd, you had - what do you call it... a head band

and other things that they could not remember.

A. Yes.

Q. Is that your usual mode of attire?

A. Yes. It is sometimes, because - like... I don't know. I guess

it is.

Q. All right. And there has been some mention of such things as rings and pendants and scarves and belts,

and this sort of thing. Do you usually wear one or more of these?

A. Yes.

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Q. Can you tell His Honour and the Gentlemen of the Jury - let's talk about the scarves for a moment. Can

you tell us where these came from?

A. Most of them are given to us.

Q. Given to you?

A. Yes. The same with the rings and trinkets and jewelry.

Q. Given to you by whom?

A. By our fans.

Q. Now, are they wrapped in boxes and arrive at your hotel, or how do they arrive?

A. They arrive all ways. Sometimes we are on stage and a lot of things are thrown on stage, like toys and

teddy bears; sometimes we are going through crowds and they put things like scarves around our necks

and in our hotel rooms we receive many things, many gifts.

Q. What do you do with these things?

A. We keep them.

Q. When you would return from a tour, can you tell His Honour and the Gentlemen of the Jury how much

you would have collected in this manner?

A. Probably fill up a big bag, because there are so many things you get. I had a big teddy bear, about this

size (indicating) one time. Millions of things; a bus load.

Q. When you go on a tour, which you have already mentioned, I gather you don't travel by yourself?

A. No.

Q. Can you tell me how many people would be in the group that travels?

A. Not including us three that is actually playing, there must

be about six, at least six other people, in our party, that is.

Q. Who are they?

A. We have accountants, road managers and electricians, equipment men, promoters, record company

representatives...

Q. Do they travel with you for the whole tour?

A. Yes.

Q. Would you tell us about the equipment that goes with you for your performance?

A. What do you mean? Do you mean the size, or what kind?

Q. What equipment do you take with you? Do you take a guitar and that's all?

A. I think we take about 3,700 lbs. worth of equipment - that is the amplifiers alone. Then we have our

separate P.A. equipment, you know, the microphones; that is about 1,000 pounds.

Q. Plus your guitars?

A. Yes.

Q. Plus your personal baggage and so on. Is that right?

A. Yes.

Q. And these people who travel with you in the group, are they employees of yours, or who are they?

A. Yes. They are employees.

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Q. Have they been with you a long time?

A. Yes, they have. Ever since we began, three years ago.

Q. Can you tell us. Mr. Hendrix, on one of these tours, when you check into a hotel, what happens; is it all

peace and tranquillity, or what happens?

A. No, it is not peace. There are always a lot of people around, sometimes - a lot of fans, outside and in the

lobby and even through the halls.

Q. Without any insults to anyone, can you perhaps guess as to what age bracket you are talking about

when you talk about fans?

A. Well, I could say from about 13 to 35, not counting mothers and fathers that bring their kids for

autographs and pictures.

Q. And I think you have already told us that these gifts that are handed to you - however they are put to

you, either dropped or handed or thrown, you keep them?

A. Yes. Most of them we keep, yes.

Q. Is there any reason you do that?

A. Well, it is just being gracious, you know. If a fan gives you something it's a very good feeling. They are

the ones that support us; they are the ones that buy our records, so there's no harm done to receive a gift

from a fan or a friend.

Q. Now, during the course of a tour, is it part of the whole situation that you see people when you are not

on stage?

A. I didn't understand.

Q. You have to see people, talk to people?

A. Yes.

Q. Who are they?

A. We have interviews and press conferences, press receptions and so forth and so on.

Q. Where do these take place?

A. Most of the time in the hotel rooms, or either back stage at the auditorium.

Q. And is there any relationship between the privacy you get in the size of the city you go to?

A. Quite naturally, in the big cities there are always more people there, running around through the halls

and lobbies and backstage.

Q. As far as the hotel, is it confined to the lobby, the people coming?

A. No. Like I said before, they are in the hall sometimes, even in the rooms and on the streets.

Q. Now, on Saturday, May 3, last, you arrived at Malton Airport by airplane?

A. Yes.

Q. And you came from where?

A. What date was that?

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Q. This is the Saturday, May 3; the day this incident happened that we are talking about.

A. We came in from Detroit.

Q. And you came in by airplane?

A. Yes.

Q. And who came with you, or do you recall?

A. The regular troupe, you know. There's the drummer and the bass player and the six or seven other

people.

Q. And had you played in Detroit before coming here?

A. Yes.

Q. When was that?

A. I believe it was the night before.

Q. And do you know where you had been prior to going to Detroit?

A. The night before that we was in Los Angeles.

Q. You had come from Los Angeles to Detroit?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, when you had been in Los Angeles, do you know where you had been staying?

A. The Beverly Rodeo Hotel.

Q. And where is that situated?

A. It is in Beverly Hills, California.

Q. And Beverly Hills is where, in regard to Los Angeles?

A. It is a part of Los Angeles.

Q. Were you and all your group staying there?

A. Yes.

MR. O'DRISCOLL: Now perhaps, with Your Honour's permission, this might be a place to stop.

- Whereupon His Honour is instructed the Jury, and following discussion in the absence of the Jury Court

was adjourned.

DECEMBER 9, 1969

CONTINUED DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Mr. Hendrix, what education do you have?

A. Up to 11th grade.

Q. Now, when the Court rose yesterday afternoon, I believe we had reached the point where we discussed

the matter that you arrived at Malton - Toronto International Airport at Malton, on Saturday, May 3, 1969

at about 2 p.m. I think you told His Honour and the Gentlemen of the Jury you came to Toronto from

Detroit. Is that correct?

A. Yes.

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Q. And that you came with others of your group; that is, those who play in the group with you, plus the

others of your road tour group, the road manager and accountant and so forth, and I think you had also

told us that you had played a concert in Detroit the night before, which was May 2. Is that correct?

THE COURT: Excuse me...

THE CLERK OF THE COURT: Are there any witnesses in the courtroom? All witnesses are excluded.

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Now, prior to playing in Detroit, your concert in Detroit, do you remember where you had last played a

concert?

A. I think it was in Los Angeles.

Q. Do you remember the date?

A. I really can't remember off hand.

Q. Now, you told us that you played Detroit on the evening of May 2. Do you remember when you came to

Detroit?

A. Could you repeat that, please?

Q. Do you remember when you got to Detroit?

A. Yes.

Q. When was that?

A. I think it was the second of May.

Q. Was that the same day as you played the evening in Detroit?

A. Yes.

Q. And you had come to Detroit from where?

A. From Los Angeles.

Q. I see, and where were you staying in Los Angeles?

A. We stayed at an hotel called the Beverly Rodeo Hotel.

Q. Which is situated where?

A. In Beverly Hills.

Q. California?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, do you recall, Mr. Hendrix, what time your concert started and what time it finished in Detroit?

A. I don't recall off hand the exact time it started. I believe it finished at 12. It may have started at about

eight or nine.

Q. And did you go to bed right after the concert, or do you recall?

A. I guess I went to bed about 2 o'clock.

Q. Do you remember what time you got up in the morning?

A. Not exactly. It must have been...

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Q. We have been told that the plane arrived at Malton at about 2 o'clock.

A. Yes. That's true.

Q. Now, at this point, May 2 and 3 of this year, were you just starting a tour or were you in the middle of

one, or were you just ending, or do you recall?

A. It was in the middle.

Q. The middle of a tour?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, when you got off the plane did you get off alone or with some of your group?

A. No. We got off with the regular people that we work with. We got off with them.

Q. And do you remember at all, or in any detail, how you were dressed at that time?

A. It was what they call conspicuous, I guess.

Q. Conspicuous. Not like you are today?

A. No.

Q. All right. Do you recall what luggage or what baggage you had with you?

A. I think I had about five pieces in all, five pieces of luggage.

Q. Do you remember any description of them?

A. There was about two or three zip suitcases and, I think, two airline bags.

Q. Two airline bags?

A. Yes.

Q. Mr. Registrar, may I see Exhibit 4? Now you say "airline bags," you mean something like Exhibit 4, which I

have in my hand?

A. Yes.

Q. You believe you had two of these?

A. Yes.

Q. And you had two, what you would call suitcases?

A. Yes. They were zip suitcases.

Q. This Exhibit 4, which I have, has on it "United," blue and white, and it also has "Hawaii" on it. Is that

correct?

A. I guess so. I take your word for it. Yes.

Q. It is on both sides.

A. Yes.

Q. Now, this Exhibit 4, do you recall whether this was checked or whether you were carrying it?

A. I don't understand the question.

Q. Had you checked this through or were you carrying this on the plane with you? Did you carry it on the

plane and off the plane, or do you recall?

A. Well, I was carrying a couple of bags on the plane. I don't know if that was one of them. I believe I was

carrying one similar to that.

Q. And after you got off the airplane and you walked...

THE COURT: Just a moment. I am not too sure of this. You say "one similar to that," do you mean not that

one, or one similar, or do you mean it could have been that one? Which do you mean?

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THE WITNESS: I can't remember, but I was carrying approximately two bags.

THE COURT: Go ahead.

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. You got off the airplane and you walked in to the building and I assume you went up the escalator and

so forth, and did you get to the customs area?

A. Yes.

Q. And what, if anything, did you do with regard to the baggage that you were not carrying?

A. I went to the baggage claim and got the bags that were - the bags from there, and took it to the

Customs area. Then I started carrying the bags to the counter and set them down on the counter, so I set

that one on there first...

Q. You are referring to Exhibit 4?

A. Yes.

Q. You set this one on the counter?

A. First, and I went back to get the other ones. By the time I got back to the counter the Customs Officer

was in the bag. He had a bottle in his hand by the time I got back.

Q. I see, Mr. Hendrix, this closes up by a zip?

A. Zipper.

Q. There is no lock to fasten it in any way?

A. No.

Q. You say the Customs Officer had a bottle in his hand. Do you recall what the bottle was like?

A. Yes. It was like the one you have in your hand.

Q. You are referring to Exhibit 1?

A. Yes.

Q. What did the Customs Officer do with Exhibit 1?

A. He was unscrewing the cap and he poured the contents out in his hand - little packets.

Q. Did he show you the contents?

A. Yes. He showed them to me, but as he was showing them to me he was asking, "What's this?"

Q. I show the contents of the envelope marked Exhibit 2, which we have been told were in this bottle. Is

that what he showed you?

A. Yes.

Q. What, if anything, did you reply to him?

A. When he said "What's this?" I said, "I really don't know what it is. I believe somebody must have given it

to me." Something similar to that.

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Q. Right. Can you tell us what happened then?

A. Then he asked me over again and I kept saying, "No." By this time one of his colleagues came around

and asked what was going on or something and he said, "Do you think I should hold this?" ...I don't know.

I can't remember exact words.

Q. Yes?

A. And I was standing there waiting on these things, and they took me around to a room, as somebody

else was searching my bags. They took me and my bags to another room and they searched me there and

kept asking me what they were and I kept telling them, "I don't know. I don't know." By the time I got to

the room I said, "I don't know. It might be Bromo-Seltzer," and he pulled out a tube and pulled out some

kind of comb.

Q. Now, you say a tube. I show you what has been marked as Exhibit 3, an aluminum or stainless steel

tube, with a black tip on the end of it.

A. Yes. This is it.

Q. Now, the Officer has told us that Exhibit 3, this tube, was found in this same bag, Exhibit 4. Is that...

A. Yes. It was found in the same bag.

Q. Now, looking at Exhibit 4, I find this; do you know what this is?

A. No, I don't. It was given to me also.

THE COURT: When?

THE WITNESS: I can't remember the exact date now.

THE COURT: Did you know it was there?

THE WITNESS: Yes, I knew it was there, yes.

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Now, looking at this Exhibit 4, Mr. Hendrix, we find...

A. Yes.

Q. A spray. And we find a bottle of.... what is that?

A. It is for hair.

Q. We have also produced this, which you say you don't know what it is, somebody gave it to you. We also

find in there... what is that?

A. It is a cream shampoo.

Q. Cream shampoo. We find another bottle. Do you know what that is?

A. Those are vitamin C pills.

Q. We find this. It is a... what do you call this - a pocket book, entitled, You Can Change Your Life Through

Psychic Power, by Jo Anne Chase as told to Constance Moon. Is that yours?

A. It was given to me, yes.

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Q. There is also a piece of paper, a purple piece of paper with writing on it. Is that your writing?

A. No. It is a letter that was sent to me.

THE COURT: I didn't hear that.

WITNESS: This is from a letter that was sent to me, Your Honour.

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. I have a pink bottle. Do you know what that is?

A. It is a cream rinse.

Q. Cream rinse. I also find in here a postcard. Where is that postcard of?

A. It is the entrance of the Beverly Rodeo Hotel. You mean the picture?

Q. Yes. The entrance of the Beverly Rodeo Hotel. Is that the hotel you have spoken about earlier?

A. Yes.

Q. There is writing on the back. Do you know whose writing that is?

A. It is mine.

Q. It is yours?

A. Yes.

Q. There is also a picture of a young child.

A. Yes.

Q. Do you know who that is?

A. Yes

Q. We also find in the bottom, this. What is this?

A. That was given to me also. It was from some Hell's Angel jacket or something. I don't know.

Q. And I also find at the bottom of the bag an American 10-cent piece and two American one-cent pieces.

MR. MALONE: Would you mind just leaving it out?

MR. O'DRISCOLL: Yes. I am sorry.

Q. Now, we have also heard, Mr. Hendrix, about a tile. Did the officers find a piece of tile?

A. Yes. They found it in my pocket.

Q. Found a piece of tile in your pocket?

A. Yes.

Q. And do you know what that was? Can you tell His Honour and the Gentlemen of the Jury what that tile

was?

A. It is a piece of tile to stick a piece of incense in and you stick it on the mantle piece or anywhere you want

it, and it gives off a fragrance. It has a little hole all the way through it.

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Q. And did the Officers seize that, as well?

A. Yes.

Q. My friend has produced, Your Honour, a brown envelope. Inside I find a tile. Is that the tile in question?

A. Yes.

THE COURT: May I see it, please. A tile like you might use in a bathroom wall; is that the type?

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. A ceramic tile. Is that right?

A. Yes.

Q. This tile was wrapped in paper, I presume.

Your Honour, may I have the envelope - the brown envelope with the tile inside, marked as Exhibit 7?

THE COURT: I presume it didn't have the scotch tape around it?

THE WITNESS: No, it didn't.

EXHIBIT 7: Envelope containing ceramic tile.

MR. O'DRISCOLL: Your Honour, my friend has produced to me a Certificate of Analysis, which I would ask to

be marked as the next exhibit, with regard to this piece of tile, as analyzed by the Dominion Analyst and

found to contain no narcotic.

THE COURT: Just a moment. How relevant is this?

MR. MALONE: Your Honour, I didn't think it was too relevant and I didn't put it in. It is not properly

introduced now, of course, but I am quite agreeable to have my friend introduce it.

THE COURT: If it is done by agreement, then there is no problem.

MR. O'DRISCOLL: I do believe, Your Honour, if I am not mistaken, that the RCMP officer yesterday, during

the course of his evidence, mentioned one of the things that was seized was a piece of tile from his pocket.

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THE COURT: Yes. He did say that.

MR. O'DRISCOLL: Might the certificate be Exhibit 8, Your Honour?

THE COURT: Yes.

EXHIBIT 8: Certificate of Dominion Analyst relating to Exhibit 7.

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Now, Mr. Hendrix, this room in the Beverly Rodeo Hotel in Beverly Hills, California. Can you describe this

room to us?

A. It was a small room. As you walk in, to your right there is a closet and about two feet of wall, and then

there is a bed and straight ahead is a couch. To your left there is a TV and bathroom and straight ahead,

behind the couch, is windows. There is a very small hallway - a small little hall passage.

Q. Now, looking at Exhibit 1 and the contents of it, Exhibit 2, do you know where they came from?

A. As far as I can remember it came from a girl that handed it to me.

Q. Let's go back. Where were you at this time?

A. I was in my hotel room.

Q. Where?

A. In Beverly Hills. It was crowded with a lot of people there.

Q. What day was this - or what month are we talking about?

A. Let's see, what day was it? It was the day before we left Los Angeles going to Detroit.

Q. The day you left Los Angeles for where?

A. For Detroit.

Q. All right. You have told us that you got to Detroit - you performed in Detroit on the second, and you got

there on the second. So the day before, is that - what, the first of May?

A. The day before we went to Detroit. I don't know what day it was.

Q. All right. The day before you went to Detroit. Can you tell us what time of day we are talking about?

A. This was about the early evening.

Q. And where were you?

A. I was in my hotel room. I was doing some interviews.

Q. Were you alone?

A. No, I was not. There were a lot of people there.

Q. Do you recall any person in that room by name?

A. Yes. There was one person there - she was doing an interview with me, her name is Sharon Lawrence.

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Q. Now, can you tell us what your physical situation was at the time; how were you feeling?

A. I didn't feel very good at all. There were so many people there and I had an upset stomach, plus I was

trying to be nice to everybody, you know, and I just didn't feel very good at all. I wanted to see if I could

get rid of everybody in the most polite way possible, so I could be to myself, and Sharon and I was doing

an interview together and I made it known that I didn't feel so good. I asked everybody politely to leave -

the door was open and everybody was coming in and out, the usual scene in hotels.

Q. The door was open?

A. The door was open, yes.

Q. And did anything happen?

A. Like I said before, I was trying to get rid of everybody and I think I told Sharon, and somebody said,

"Maybe you might need a Bromo-Seltzer," and at the same time there was a girl at the door, she stepped in

and handed me this bottle and said, "Maybe this might make you feel better," and I said, "Thank you very

much." I didn't study the bottle, I didn't look at it too much. I threw it in my bag.

Q. Just a moment. You say what you received from this girl - can you tell us what you received from her?

A. Yes. The bottle in your hand.

Q. You received this from her?

A. Yes.

Q. Was there anything in it?

A. I really couldn't say. I didn't look in it. I just received it as a gift and I was trying to be nice.

Q. What did you do with it?

A. I threw it in my bag.

Q. Where was your bag?

A. It was behind me. I had the bags laying on the floor, all packed up with the zippers open. I had them

laying there and I said, "Thank you very much, but I really must get some rest."

Q. You put it in the bag?

A. Right.

Q. Did you unscrew the top or examine the contents?

A. No, I didn't.

Q. Talking about receiving things; did you receive anything else at that time from anybody else?

A. Oh, yes. I received, I believe, a box of candy... you mean the same day?

Q. Yes.

A. Yes. I believe it was a box of candy and... I don't know, other things. Maybe a book or something. I can't

remember. I really can't remember.

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Q. All right. Now, after this happened, did everyone stay or did everyone leave, or what happened?

A. No. Eventually everyone left, because I guess they finally picked up on how I was feeling. I didn't mean to

be rude, but I was a bit rude when I threw the bottle in the bag. So... like, everybody was gradually leaving

then. After they left I laid down and took a nap.

Q. You told us about tossing this in the bag that evening. Can you recall, was the bag empty or were there

other things in the bag at the time?

A. There was other things in the bag. It was almost filled with things.

Q. You were leaving the next day for Detroit?

A. Yes.

Q. Now, I gather from what you have told us, that the zipper on the bag was open and you threw it in the

bag.

A. Yes.

Q. What next did you have to do with this bag?

A. Nothing, except the morning that we was going to leave, I had another bag in the bathroom, so I put all

the toilet articles in there. Everything was all packed and everything, all I would have to do was zip

everything up and the bags would be taken downstairs to the car to go to the airport. So there was

nothing else I did with that bag, except zip it up, either that night or the next morning, I can't remember.

Q. And you took this bag with you to Detroit?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you recall, or do you know, or do you remember what, if anything, you did with this bag while you

were in Detroit?

A. I just put all my bags in the closet. We were only there for one performance so there was nothing I

needed, except the toilet article bag I had. I had another bag, too.

Q. Did you have an occasion to go into this bag?

A. No, not at all. I didn't need to.

Q. When was the next time that this bag was opened?

A. The next time was at the airport here in Toronto.

Q. All right. Now, let's look at Exhibit 3, this tube. The Customs Officers have told this Court that they also

found this tube in Exhibit 4, together with Exhibit 1 and its contents, Exhibit 2. What can you tell His

Honour and the Gentlemen of the Jury as to where this came from?

A. I believe it must have been given to me, too. It was given to me.

Q. It was given to you?

A. Yes.

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Q. Did you ever, in any way, use this?

A. No.

Q. We have heard, and you have been in Court and have heard, that there were traces of hashish found on

the inside of this tube.

A. Yes.

Q. Were you aware of that?

A. No, I was not.

Q. Do you know when and how and by whom this Exhibit 3 got into Exhibit 4, the bag?

A. I really can't remember. You know, it was given to me, so I guess I threw it into the bag. I don't know

when I got it... it must have been on the West Coast during the six days we were out there. I think it might

have been at Oakland.

Q. Did you notice anything about the tube; anything about the inside of the tube?

A. You mean when I received it ? Like, when I got it?

Q. Yes.

A. No.

Q. Or at any time?

A. No.

Q. Mr. Hendrix, you have told us you receive gifts. Do you get anything that might be called extraordinary

types of gifts?

A. Yes. We get all kinds of gifts.

Q. Such as what?

A. I received a few paintings that was very big - about like this (indicating), and we have received teddy

bears and even pieces of string, yarn...

Q. Yarn?

A. Yes. We get everything; fountain pens, scarves.

Q. Now, just tell me this; at what locations are you when you when you receive these things?

A. It doesn't make any difference. You know, you can be at the airport to receive anything; you can be in

the hotel lobby; you can be on stage, in the hotel room, in the hallways, in your dressing room - anywhere.

Anywhere you might be seen.

Q. The day that this happened at Malton Airport, I gather from what Customs Officers have told us, it

commenced at about 2 o'clock, were you eventually arrested?

A. Yes.

Q. And were you bailed out?

A. Yes. I was bailed out that evening.

Q. Did you have a performance in Toronto that evening?

A. Yes, we did.

Q. Where?

A. The Maple Leaf... something.

Q. The Maple Leaf Gardens?

A. Yes.

Q. What time?

A. I really can't remember exactly what time the show started. I think the show started at 8 o'clock.

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Q. Were you there?

A. At 8?

Q. Were you there for the show?

A. Oh, yes. We was there for the show, yes.

Q. Do you remember how long, prior to the show, you were released on bail?

A. Let me see... could you ask that again?

Q. Maybe we will put it around another way. From the time the Customs Officers first spoke to you until you

were free to go, do you know what period of time went by?

A. It must have been... I guess it must have been about... almost six hours, I guess.

Q. Now, have you ever received - prior to what you have told us about - presents which were drugs?

A. Yes.

Q. Can you tell His Honour and the Gentlemen of the Jury in what form they came to you?

A. Well, sometimes we would get packages of marijuana, which would be either in cellophane or tinfoil, or

maybe in little cookie packs or a cigarette box or something, and they might be rolled up in cigarette paper

and we receive hashish sometimes in blocks or hash cookies or cakes...

Q. Hash cookies?

A. Yes.

Q. What do you mean by that?

A. Hashish that has been crumbled up and mixed in with a batter to make some cookies.

Q. And it comes to you in the form of cookies?

A. That's right. Sometimes cakes.

Q. Cakes as well?

A. Yes. I had a hash cake for my birthday one time in Ireland. I was celebrating my birthday and three or

four cakes came in and there was one lump like that in the middle of a cake as we were cutting it.

Q. Now, what about the mails. Did you ever receive anything that way?

A. Yes. Well, I have received LSD through the mail.

THE COURT: What?

THE WITNESS: LSD, Your Honour, on blotting paper wrapped in tinfoil, through the mail, from France.

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Now, can you tell us, Mr. Hendrix, have you travelled on tour throughout England and Continental

Europe?

A. Yes.

Q. Any place else, besides the United States?

A. Yes. All over Canada and the United States, all over Europe, England.

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Q. I see on Exhibit 4, "Hawaii" marked. Have you toured Hawaii?

A, Yes. I'm sorry. Hawaii, too.

Q. Now, can you tell us, the search of your baggage and search of yourself at Malton Airport on May 3rd of

this year, was that something usual or unusual?

A. Well, what they did to me... the way they searched me was, like, they took off my clothes and they went

through the bags two or three times.

Q. Has that ever happened to you before?

A. Yes, it has happened before. It's happened a few times before.

Q. Where?

A. This happened in Paris; this happened in America and Canada.

Discussion in the absence of the Jury

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Mr. Hendrix, I don't want to belabour this, but you told us about gifts and so forth; do you have

anything on right now?

A. Yes. This little trinket around my neck is, like, a gift, this bracelet is a gift, these rings are gifts. It was

given to us one time or another across the country as we play our tours.

Q. Now, going back to Malton Airport on the afternoon of Saturday, May 3rd, were you asked questions by

a number of persons during that afternoon?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you remember approximately by how many people you were questioned?

A. About six people. Six different people.

Q. And do you know who those people were?

A. I believe about two Customs Officers - or three or four, I can't remember. There were two Police Officers

that asked me questions - there was a person from Narcotics, he was asking me questions. There was

people asking all the time - sometimes at the same time.

Q. How long did this go on, Mr. Hendrix?

A. This went on for about - I guess about four hours. I can't remember ... about four hours.

Q. And do you remember all the questions that were asked you?

A. I can remember some of them, yes.

Q. Do you remember all the answers you gave?

A. Like, I was tired and everything and, you know, we were playing the night before. I can't remember all the

answers. I can't remember the exact words I said on some of the answers.

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Q. Do you remember basically what you said?

A. Yes, I do.

Q. What was that?

A. I didn't know what they were. I knew the bottle and its contents was given to me by a girl in California. I

don't know if I...

Q. I'm sorry?

A. I can't remember really... if I was asked... specifically what I said.

Q. All right. Now, have you ever used cocaine?

A. Yes.

Q. How many times?

A. Twice.

Q. How did you take it?

A. I sniffed it.

Q. Have you ever used LSD?

A. Yes.

Q. How many times?

A. Five times.

Q. Have you ever used heroin?

A. No.

Q. At any time?

A. No.

Q. Have you ever used hashish?

A. Yes.

Q. How?

A. We smoke it - I smoked it before, through a pipe.

Q. A pipe?

A. Yes.

Q. Have you ever used marijuana?

A. Yes.

Q. How?

A. Within - it is rolled up in cigarette papers, or with a pipe.

Q. Have you recently smoked marijuana?

A. Not recently.

Q. Have you recently smoked hashish?

A. No.

Q. As of the 3rd May, had you smoked hashish or marijuana in or about that time?

A. As of the 3rd May?

Q. Yes. That is the Malton Airport day. Had you smoked marijuana in or about that time?

A. Yes. I believe so.

Q. Where?

A. I don't remember where.

Q. In Canada?

A. I don't... No. Not in Canada.

Q. In the United States?

A. Yes.

Q. California?

A. Yes. I can't remember ... yes. I think so, yes. I have smoked it before in California.

Q. Now, is there any difference between now and say a couple of years ago, about the number of times you

have smoked marihuana or smoked hashish, the difference between now and then?

A. Yes. There is a difference.

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Q. What is the difference?

A. I don't smoke it as much.

Q. I see, and why is that, or is there any reason?

A. I feel I have outgrown it, you know. It doesn't do like it used to.

Q. I am sorry. I can't hear you.

A. I have outgrown it - hashish.

Q. Now, you were released on bail on Saturday afternoon, and you have already told us you performed at

Maple Leaf Gardens on the Saturday night. Where did you go then?

A. You mean after Saturday night?

Q. Yes.

A. I went back to the hotel to bed.

Q. Did you go somewhere on Sunday?

A. I think we went to Syracuse.

Q. On the Sunday?

A. I can't remember. I think we went to Syracuse the next time we played.

Q. Did you come back to Toronto again?

A. Yes.

Q. When was that?

A. That was on the Monday.

Q. Did you appear in Court on the Monday?

A. I came back to Toronto to take care of the case.

Q. To go to Court?

A. Yes. I suppose so.

Q. Did you come back to Toronto some time in June?

A. Yes.

Q. For the Preliminary Hearing in this case?

A. Yes.

Q. And then you have come back again for the trial?

A. Yes.

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. MALONE:

Q. Mr. Hendrix, you told us this morning, earlier, that you have used marijuana?

A. Yes.

Q. And you have used hashish?

A. Yes.

Q. And you have used LSD?

A. Yes.

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Q. And on occasion you have tried cocaine?

A. Right.

Q. What about amphetamines - speed?

A. No.

Q. Pardon?

A. No, no.

Q. And you denied using heroin?

A. Yes.

Q. When did you first begin using drugs, Mr. Hendrix?

A. Which ones do you mean?

Q. Well, any soft drugs, say marijuana, which I think was probably available first.

A. I guess I tried it once about four years ago. I really don't know - I guess about four years ago.

Q. I see. That would be about 1965 - some four years after you started your band?

A. Four years ago ... before, I guess.

Q. When was it that you got out of the service?

A. I can't remember the exact date.

Q. Can you remember the year?

A. It might have been in '63.

Q. Not until '63?

A. Or '62.

Q. Between say 1962 or 1963 and today, you have earned your livelihood as an entertainer. Is that correct?

A. Yes.

Q. And would you agree with me that, because of the nature of the work, travelling, and the audiences that

you play before, and the places that you play, you would be exposed to what is known as "the drug scene"?

A. We would be exposed to it, yes.

Q. You would be exposed to it, even if you were not participating?

A. Yes.

Q. You would become quite knowledgeable as to say the language used and the source of supply and so

on?

A. The language used, yes.

Q. It has kind of a language of its own, hasn't it?

A. Not really. It's the same English words.

Q. I suppose during your travels and your exposure to the drug elements, that you would know people who

used heroin.

A. I have seen people that used heroin.

Q. And have you seen them use it?

A. To tell the truth, yes, I have. I have seen a person use it.

Q. On how many occasions.

A. About two occasions.

Q. I see. Now, I show you Exhibit 2 and the contents of Exhibit 2. These are what are commonly known as

"decks" aren't they?

A. That is what the Police Officer said to me. That's the first time I heard it. That's the term he used.

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Q. When you were exposed to people using heroin, what did their material come in?

A. All I see was the person put the needle into his hand.

Q. You didn't see him prepare it?

A. No.

Q. And could you tell me - you saw him put the needle in and inject, but you wouldn't see him prepare?

A. No, I wouldn't.

Q. But they all happen at the same time, don't they?

A. I really don't know.

Q. And you have already told us that when you use hashish you use a pipe. Is that right?

A. Yes.

Q, And would it be similar to this tube that is before the Court, Exhibit 3?

A. No. It would be a pipe.

Q. Well, they use all sorts of different paraphernalia, don't they; little brass pipes and tubes and ordinary

pipes, for that matter; isn't that so?

A. I really don't know.

Q. You don't know?

A. I have seen it used with a pipe, for instance.

Q. How many times have you used it yourself?

A. I really couldn't tell you how many times.

Q. So many times that you could not remember?

A. No.

Q. I beg your pardon?

A. No.

Q. You cannot even approximate it?

A. I would say about three times.

Q. Only three times?

A. I will say that.

Q. Pardon?

A. I will say about three times.

Q. Well, don't say about three times if that is not the number that you used it.

A. I really can't remember.

Q. You can't remember. You have told us that some of your fans send you hashish cookies and hashish

cakes and LSD. Is that right?

A. Yes, they have.

Q. Why do you suppose they send you this type of material if they don't think you are going to use it?

A. Because it is their way of saying... I don't know. I really can't say. You would have to ask them. I don't

know really.

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Q. You can't give us any information at all.

A. They send anything. I guess they do expect for us to use it - it has been known.

Q. Would these articles come from complete strangers?

A. Yes. Most of them do.

Q. Some of them would come from people that would know you, though?

A. Not really. They know us only through our music.

Q. And your reputation, I suppose?

A. Well, I will say our music and our reputation.

Q. Your musical reputation.

A. Yes.

Q. Now, just to jump ahead a little - after you were arrested in Toronto you had certain conversations with

Customs Officers and Police Officers. Isn't that right?

A. Yes.

Q. And then you told my friend that you were released on bail and you went to Syracuse. You returned to

Toronto and, at this particular time, you were in the middle of a tour. Is that not so?

A. Yes.

Q. And you have told us when you are on these tours you go to maybe 30 or so one-night stands, various

auditoriums and so on. Is that right?

A. Yes.

Q. I was struck by the detail that you were able to give us of the hotel room you stayed in Beverly Hills.

Surely you must be in a different one every night, are you not?

A. Yes.

Q. And does this one stick in the back of your mind for any particular reason?

A. Just because I stayed in the hotel before. I used to stay in Los Angeles - I used to live in the hotel the

time before.

Q. This girl that you say handed you the bottle that you say was later found to contain heroin, did you

know her?

A. No.

Q. Would you recognize her if you saw her again?

A. Not really, no.

Q. Did you make any attempt to find her after you were charged?

A. No, I didn't.

Q. Now, relating to Exhibit 3, the pipe, was it the same girl that gave you this pipe with hashish on the end?

A. Not that I know of. No, it is not the same person.

Q. So you are suggesting two different people gave you narcotics on or about the same time?

A. As I said before, when I received the tube, I didn't know there was anything in it - you know. Somebody

gave me the tube approximately about the same time or within a week of one another.

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Q. Well, we are speaking of the tube; you say you got it and you put it in your bag. Is that right?

A. Yes.

Q. Well, can you suggest to me any possible use for that - ordinary use?

A. A pea-shooter. Maybe?

Q. A pea-shooter?

A. Yes.

Q. Yes, I suppose it could be used for that, but would you normally put pea-shooters in your bag?

A. I normally put gifts in my bag.

Q. What would you use that for; why carry it around?

A. I don't know. It was a gift; we accept gifts.

Q. And all of these other articles were gifts, or did some of them belong to you?

A. This was a gift; this was a gift.

Q. You are indicating the comb and the book?

A. Somebody sent that in the mail - this picture. Somebody sent this letter in the mail. I bought this, this

right here, and I just got this for free at the hotel lobby.

Q. So these are the articles you have indicated you purchased yourself?

A. Yes.

Q. Two of the articles do not appear to have been opened and certainly none of the contents have been

used - I am referring to the Miracle Oil and the Avocado Cream Shampoo. They don't appear to have been

opened. Would you like to open them and take a look?

A. Yes. All right.

Q. So you must have bought them very recently before your arrest. Isn't that right?

A. Right.

Q. Do you recall where you bought them?

A. I can't remember. I think it was in the... It was in Los Angeles... I will say California. Whether either in

Hollywood or Beverly Hills, I am not sure.

Q. You said that you carried your toilet articles in another bag.

A. That's a shaving kit and soap and toothbrush and toothpaste.

Q. Why would you separate these articles, which appear to be toilet articles, from the other articles?

A. Because it was in a brand new bag. These were the things that were in that bag.

Q. When you put them in that bag, did you notice whether or not that little bottle containing the heroin was

there?

A. No. No, it was not. It wasn't there.

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Q. It was not there. You are sure of that?

A. It wasn't there when I bought... I put this in. I think I bought this at the same time, or approximately the

same time as the bottle that the person gave me, that was thrown on top of all this stuff.

Q. By yourself?

A. Yes.

Q. And this person, whose name we don't know, did she say what it was when she gave it to you?

A. No. All she said was, "Maybe this will make you feel better."

Q. That's all?

A. Yes.

Q. And presumably she was a fan of yours. Is that right?

A. Yes.

Q. You are suggesting that fans of yours give you hard narcotics without telling you what it is?

A. I really don't know. You know - we had a lot of gifts and they didn't tell us what it is. They say different

things here and there when they give it to us.

Q. Do you know what the price of a deck of heroin is in the Los Angeles area?

A. No.

Q. You have never heard at all?

A. No.

Q. Have you any idea how much those three decks would be worth?

A. No, I don't.

Q. Now, when you arrived in Toronto - before you got there, you told us that you carried two of the bags

on the plane with you from Detroit. Right?

A. Yes.

Q. One of which could have been Exhibit 4. Is that right?

A. Yes.

Q. Can you give me an explanation why you would take this bag with this paraphernalia on the plane and

not check it through?

A. Because of all the glassware inside here. If I checked it in the thing below - the baggage carrier, it might

have broke, and they don't usually check these - they don't usually put these in the baggage compartment

of the plane.

Q. It wasn't your intention to use any of these things between Detroit and Toronto, I take it?

A. Not really. I really can't remember what I was going to do. I just bought some things, and I never used

this before, so I just bought it - Avocado Cream Rinse.

Q. And it is a very short flight from Detroit?

A. I believe it is less than an hour from Detroit to Toronto.

Q. Had you been to Toronto before this time, Mr. Hendrix?

A. Yes.

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Q. Can you tell me how many times?

A. At least twice before.

Q. And had you arrived by plane?

A. Yes.

Q. Would it be a fair statement to say that, in spite of all the airports that you must go through, that you

would be at least familiar with Canada Customs procedures?

A. I have heard a lot about it.

Q. And would it be fair to say - while we are on it - that you were treated very fairly by both Customs

Officers and the Police Officers in the course of their investigation?

A. I was treated... I wasn't man-handled or anything.

Q. They were quite polite, weren't they?

A. Yes.

Q. In fact, I even suggest to you, that at one time you even complimented them on their behaviour?

A. I might have.

THE COURT: Pardon?

THE WITNESS: I said I might have, Your Honour.

BY MR. MALONE:

Q. You told my friend you could not remember when you played in Los Angeles?

A. Yes. I can't remember the exact date.

Q. Was it after that date when this girl gave you this bottle?

A. No. It was before. I think it was before.

Q. You are not sure?

A. No.

Q. Now, it would have been very easy to check what date it was, wouldn't it?

A. Yes.

Q. Because it has some significance as to how long you might have had the bottle in your possession. Isn't

that right?

A. Yes. I guess it is.

Q. You didn't check?

A. I am not sure. We had an itinerary and it has all the dates marked down on the itinerary.

Q. And it would have been a simple matter for you to refer to your itinerary to find out what date you

played Los Angeles?

A. Yes.

Q. But you just didn't do it?

A. Yes, I did, but I just can't remember the dates and there are other matters on my mind.

Q. As I understand your evidence, when you arrived at Toronto you put the flight bags up on the Customs

counter. Is that right?

A. Yes.

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Q. Were you in a line of people?

A. Let's see. There was a lot of people coming in - there were at least nine of us and there were a lot of

other people, and a Customs Officer, if I remember correctly, waved me down towards the last booth, or

the last counter.

Q. And did he process you right at that time?

A. Like I said, I brought some bags down there - as he was waving me down there I brought some bags

with me and I went back to collect some other bags.

Q. I suggest to you what happens is if you have hand luggage, you carry that with you, and wait for your

other bags to come off the plane.

A. Yes.

Q. And you pick up all your bags and take them to the Customs counter?

A. Yes.

Q. And sometimes you have to wait quite a while?

A. Yes. Sometimes you have to wait.

Q. And on this particular occasion you said you put your hand luggage or flight bags on the counter and

went back to fetch your other luggage?

A. Yes.

Q. Where was your other luggage; had it not arrived yet?

A. If I remember correctly it is a turn-table.

Q. That's right.

A. And if I remember correctly, I picked up all my bags, at least five, and set them down one at a time, or

two - I set them down and after they were off the turntable I picked up - I think it was this bag and another

one, and took them over to the counter and went back to where I left the bags and picked them up to take

them to the counter.

Q. As I understand it, it was apparently while you were away getting your other bags that the Customs

Officer found this bottle.

A. Yes.

Q. And when you returned he held it up and said, "What is this?"

A. Yes.

Q. And you replied, according to his evidence and you agree with him, "Oh, no. I don't really know what it is.

Someone must have put it in my bag." Right?

A. I said, "I really don't know what it is. Someone must have given it to me."

Q. How did you know it was yours?

A. Pardon?

Q. How did you know where it came from?

A. Because there was something like this - this was the only bag sitting on the counter, so common sense

told me it must have come from this bag.

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Q. But spontaneously you acknowledged it came from your bag. When he said, "What is this?" you didn't

say, "Where did you get it?" or anything like that, you said, "Someone must have put it in my bag." That is

the way I understand all the evidence, Mr. Hendrix - correct me if I am wrong.

A. That's what I did. I said, "I don't really know what it is. Someone must have given it to me."

Q. But you didn't, as I understand it, see him take it out of your bag?

A. I really can't remember exactly. All I can say is I presumed it came from the bag.

Q. Would you agree with me, in your evidence in chief, you said that while you were away the Customs

Officer must have taken it out of your bag and when you returned he showed it to you. Didn't you tell my

friend that when he was examining you?

A. Yes, I think so. I can't...

Q. So you just assumed it came from your bag?

A. Yes.

Q. The first Customs Official, Officer Wilson, said that he saw this tube in your bag when he made his first

examination, but didn't attach any significance to it. Were you present when he searched the bag?

A. Yes, I was. I was present.

Q. Did you see this tube in your bag when the first search was made?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. And did it have any significance

A. No.

Q. It didn't. And how much time would you say elapsed between the time that they found the bottle and the

time that they found the tube - or when you attached some importance to the tube?

A. I think it might have been, say, about maybe an hour.

Q. I see.

A. I really can't say. I really can't say. I will say half an hour.

Q. Had the members of the RCMP or the Metro Drug Squad arrived?

A. This person that was dressed in an ice hockey - you know, jacket - he was the was the only person that

really started asking me about the tube.

Q. I see. Are you referring to Detective Midgley; do you know him by name?

A. No. It was another person. He stated he worked on the Narcotics Squad or something.

Q. Now, I show you Exhibit 7. This was found on your person, this piece of ceramic tile, wasn't it?

A. Yes, it was.

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Q. Do you know where you had it?

A. I think I had it in my pocket.

Q. But you don't remember which pocket?

A. No, I don't.

Q. And it appears to be burnt in the centre. Could you explain that; or have you already explained it?

A. Yes. I think I have done so.

Q. Could you explain it again, please?

A. There is still a piece of incense in there. It must have burnt all the way down to the tile itself.

Q. And what do you do with this?

A. I really don't remember. I think I may have put incense in there.

Q. You might have?

A. Yes. Or it might have been given to me. I had incense in there.

Q. What do you burn incense for?

A. For the nice smell.

Q. Would you agree with me that, knowing about marijuana users, that it is sometimes used to cover the

marihuana smell?

A. Yes. It is sometimes used for that and for bad kitchen odours.

Q. And you really can't recall how that got in your pocket?

A. No. Someone might have given it to me.

Q. Am I safe in saying it was not for your bad kitchen odours?

A. No. I don't have a kitchen.

Q. Mr. Hendrix, I realize you have a busy schedule, but after you were released on bail did you do anything

to attempt to explain how this material got in your luggage?

A. I don't understand the question. Could you ask it again, please?

Q. You are charged with, I think you will agree, a serious offense and your evidence is you really don't know

how it got there or who put it there. Is that right?

A. That's what I said, yes. That is what I said at first because there was a lot of questions being asked and I

vaguely remembered that yellow top. That's all I remembered - that yellow top. At first I said I didn't really

know what it was and kept on saying it. After we got inside the search room I started thinking about the

yellow top and I must have had it somewhere, so I said it might be Bromo-Seltzer.

Q. And that wasn't really my question, but I didn't want to interrupt you. What I am interested in is your

subsequent conduct; what you did after you were charged. Did you do anything to attempt to explain this

away?

A. I tried to answer the questions.

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Q. I appreciate that. Let me put it this way: You have told us you made no attempt to find the girl who you

say gave this to you. Right?

A. Yes.

Q. You did make an attempt, or you didn't?

A. No. We didn't make an attempt - I didn't make an attempt myself.

Q. You told us you recall the name of one of the parties that was in the room at the time, one, Sharon

Lawrence?

A. Yes.

Q. And I understand Sharon Lawrence must be something to do with the media; she was interviewing you?

A. Yes.

Q. Could you not have contacted her in an attempt to find out who this person was; did you not think

about that?

A. Well, I didn't think the person could be found.

Q. Didn't you think it was worth the effort?

A. Well, we was working all the time. We was working. When I found out it was heroin I gave up searching

for the girl because I didn't think someone....

Q. I didn't hear that. Would you repeat it, please?

THE COURT: Would you repeat what you said? You didn't think someone would give themselves in when

they thought it was heroin?

THE WITNESS: Yes.

BY MR. MALONE:

Q. That was your only reason, or did you have any other?

A. Plus we was travelling and I didn't think it would wind up to be so serious because I didn't know it was

there in the first place.

Q. As I understand the evidence, again, Mr. Hendrix, you received this bottle from this unknown female

during this hub-bub in your room and you put it in that bag, that just happened to be open there. Is that

right?

A. Yes. All my bags were open because they were all packed up already and either that night or the next

morning I would just zip them up.

Q. And again, as I understand it, when questioned initially about it, you said, "Oh, no. I don't really know

what it is. Someone must have put it in my bag." Do you agree with that wording; your wording, I believe,

is a little different?

A. There was so many things asked and said. I can't deny that I said that, but like, I said before I was tired

and I was being asked questions left and right.

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Q. Would you agree... oh, I'm sorry.

A. During the day I may have said something pertaining to that, but I said, right at the very beginning, you

know, someone must have given it to me.

Q. If you did say someone must have put it in your bag, that would not be true, would it, because according

to your evidence today you put it in your bag?

A. Yes.

Q. Can you give us any idea how often you would receive drugs from your fans?

A. Most every time that we played at a show, you know.

Q. What would you do with these drugs?

A. We would throw them away.

Q. How did you know they were drugs?

A. Most of the time they came in tinfoil or, like I said, cellophane packets, and you could see, or they came

rolled in cigarette paper.

Q. You would probably agree with me that marijuana and hashish are quite easily identifiable, aren't they,

just by looking at them?

A. Yes.

Q. But LSD is not, is it?

A. Not really.

Q. It is hard to tell. You see a pill there, it could be anything, couldn't it?

A. Most of the pills we got were wrapped in tinfoil and in a little vial, or something.

Q. Would you get these anonymously?

A. I don't know the names of the people that gave these to us.

Q. Would people sign their names to letters they would enclose with these drugs?

A. They might put down Bob or Joe.

Q.Well, that wouldn't mean much, would it? It might just as well be anonymous.

A. I suppose so.

Q. Did you ever complain to the police about people sending you drugs?

A. No.

Q. You just accepted it as one of the things you had to contend with in your business, did you?

A. I guess there are times we might have mentioned it to some of the people hanging around - I mean

police around the dressing room, and asked them not to let people in.

Q. But, other than that, did you take any preventive measures? Obviously this practice could get you into

trouble, if this practice got you into this trouble.

A. We tried a lot of things. We just throwed them away. That's all I can say.

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Q. Nevertheless, you would be in at least momentary possession of these drugs, wouldn't you?

A. If we could see their presence in - they might be like that, we would say no, thank you - "I am not into

that," and sometimes they might give you packets and you open up the packets...

Q. And this, you say, happens every place you go?

A. Yes. About every place we go. Every place we play; all the major cities, especially.

Q. And what would be the quantity you would get of say marijuana or hashish?

A. Maybe one cigarette; maybe two or three.

Q. Just small bits?

A. Or maybe a bag of it. A small little cellophane bag or something.

Discussion in the absence of the Jury, followed by luncheon recess.

CONTINUED CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. MALONE

Q. Mr. Hendrix, without reviewing all of the evidence that you gave this morning, without reviewing any of it,

are you absolutely certain that this bottle came into your possession in Los Angeles, or could it have been

Detroit, San Francisco or elsewhere?

A. It certainly came from Los Angeles.

Q. Are you certain as to when it came into your possession? That is, could it have been - I gathered from

your evidence that it was approximately three days, is that right, before it was discovered?

A. That's right.

Q. Could it have been longer, or could it have been shorter?

A. I am pretty sure that it was the night before we left Los Angeles. I am sure about that.

Q. How can you be sure that it was the same bottle?

A. Well, I guess I couldn't be. I presume it is the same bottle. It looks like the same bottle, the yellow top,

like I said before, and I vaguely remember seeing packets inside it the first time I seen it.

Q. But you cannot be sure that it is the same bottle?

A. All I can say is I am pretty sure it is.

Q. But if you can't be certain it is the same bottle, then I suggest to you the bottle we are dealing with

could have got into your bag earlier or later, or in a different area than you have told us about.

A. All I can say is it resembles the bottle I threw in the bag the night before we left.

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Q. When you were talking to the Police officers and the Customs officials after your apprehension, were you

certain then it was in Los Angeles that you received this bottle, or was there some doubt in your mind at

that time?

A. I was not completely certain, but I knew I had seen it somewhere. I had a feeling I had seen it somewhere

before recognizing the yellow top.

Q. So would it be fair to say that when you were talking to those police officers you were not certain exactly

where you got it?

A. Well, I was very nervous and tired at first when they asked me questions. I was very nervous.

Q. You have admitted to us that they were very polite - that you actually commended them upon their

conduct at one time during the afternoon or evening. Isn't that right?

A. That's right.

Q. You have also indicated to us that for the past number of years you have entertained and played before

tens of thousands of people. Isn't that right?

A. Yes.

Q. Why would you be nervous then?

A. I am always nervous, especially going through Customs and being checked and being stripped.

Q. I am sure it was very unpleasant; nobody likes to have that happen, but are you suggesting your

nervousness at that time in some way affected your memory?

A. No. All I can say is I was not very relaxed. I was not thinking too much of what I was saying. I don't

know exactly.

Q. Would it be fair to say then that later you became more certain as to where you got this bottle?

A. Yes, I did, because I was settling down later and I seen how serious they were.

Q. You had to search your memory then, did you?

A. Yes. I had a chance to.

Q. But the evidence is you were at Malton International Airport for some three hours approximately. Isn't

that correct?

A. Yes. Three or four hours.

Q. And during these three or four hours you could not be certain just where you got the bottle?

A. Like I said before, I vaguely remember seeing the bottle by recognizing the yellow top.

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Q. So at that time you vaguely remembered, and now you are certain, is that it?

A. Yes. I had time to think about it in more comfortable...

MR. MALONE: Thank you, Mr. Hendrix.

THE COURT: Do you have any other questions, Mr. O'Driscoll?

MR. O'DRISCOLL: Thank you, Your Honour.

RE-EXAMINATION BY MR. O'DRISCOLL

Q. Mr. Hendrix, Mr. Malone asked you this morning about an itinerary and had you had a chance to look it

up. Have you had a chance to look into the different places, in or about that time, where you were?

A. I'm sorry, I have forgotten.

Q. Do you have a piece of paper to that effect?

A. I think so. I might have one.

Q. Do you have it in your pocket?

A. I might. Do you want me to check?

Q. Would you look?

A. I don't think I do. I left it in my overcoat pocket.

THE COURT: Is it important to you, Mr. O'Driscoll?

MR. O'DRISCOLL: Well, it was just as to names of cities in the last part of April and the first few days of

May.

THE COURT: If he says he has it in his overcoat and you are interested in finding it, I am sure there is no

problem.

MR. MALONE: If my friend has a copy of it in his file, Your Honour, I have no objection to him showing it to

the witness so that he may refresh his memory.

BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. I am showing you a piece of paper, Mr. Hendrix. Do you recognize that piece of paper, or what is stated

on that piece of paper?

A. Yes.

Q. What does it say?

A. It says, "April 26th, Los Angeles Forum; April 27th, Oakland Coliseum; May 2nd, Cobo Hall, Detroit; May

3rd, Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto."

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MR. O'DRISCOLL: Might I have this as an exhibit, Your Honour?

THE COURT: Who made it?

THE WITNESS: It was from our office, Your Honour.

THE COURT: Do you care one way or the other, Mr. Malone?

MR. MALONE: No. I was just inquiring from my friend, Your Honour - I was a little confused about the

itinerary, but I have no objection to it being filed.

CLERK OF THE COURT: Might it be Exhibit 9, Your Honour?

THE COURT: Yes. Exhibit 9

EXHIBIT 9: Itinerary.

MR. O'DRISCOLL: I have no further questions.

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SHARON LAWRENCE, Sworn

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. O'DRISCOLL:

Q. Miss Lawrence, where do you live?

A. 535 South Allendale Avenue in Los Angeles.

Q. Would you be good enough to keep your voice up so we can all hear you, please?

A. Yes. I will try.

Q. Are you married or single?

A. I am single.

Q. How old are you?

A. Twenty-six.

Q. Have you ever been convicted of any criminal offense?

A. No, sir.

Q. You live in Los Angeles; are you a native of Los Angeles?

A. Yes, I am.

Q. What is your occupation?

A. I am a writer for the United Press International.

Q. You are a writer for the United Press International; that is one of the news agencies?

A. Yes. It is an international wire service agency.

Q. And how long have you been employed by United Press International?

A. More than five years.

Q. And do you have any particular assignment?

A. Yes. I cover movie, television, popular record and general news stories.

Q. Is your office in Los Angeles?

A. Yes, it is.

Q. Educational-wise, Miss Lawrence, how far have you gone in school?

A. I went to the University of California at Santa Barbara, then to the University of California at Los Angeles,

and I left shortly before graduation.

Q. Now, do you know the accused, James Marshall Hendrix?

A. Yes, sir. I have met him.

Q. When did you first meet him?

A. Around a year and a half ago.

Q. Where?

A. At a pop concert near Los Angeles.

Q. Do you remember the name of the place?

A. Yes. It was Anaheim Centre.

Q. Were you there as a spectator, or was it part of your job?

A. Well, it was part of my job to go to musical events.

Q. You say a year and a half ago. Where does that bring us to?

A. I believe it was in February of 1968.

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Q. Did you have occasion to talk to him on that occasion?

A. I was introduced to him very briefly.

Q. Did you see him subsequently; meet him?

A. Yes. I saw him at several recording sessions last fall; a year ago last fall.

Q. Now, coming back - or coming forward to this year, April and May of this year, were you living and

working in California?

A. Yes sir.

Q. Do you recall seeing Hendrix in the early part of May of 1969?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Where?

A. I was asked to interview him at his hotel in Beverly Hills.

Q. What is the name of the hotel?

A. The Beverly Rodeo Hotel.

Q. This is part of your job?

A. Yes, it is.

Q. Did you go to interview him?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Do you remember the day of the week, or day of the month?

A. Yes, I do. I remember it very clearly. It was Thursday, May 1st.

Q. You went to the hotel?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Do you remember what time?

A. I would say it was around 6:30 in the evening.

Q. Did you see Hendrix?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Where did you see him?

A. I was told to inquire at the desk for his room by a member of the recording company that he is

associated with, and I did and went to his room.

Q. Was he at the room?

A. Yes, he was.

Q. Was he alone?

A. No. There were six or seven other people present.

Q. Do you recall anything about this room?

A. Well, it was a small, average-size hotel room. It had a bed and a couch and a table...

Q. Do you remember where the couch was with relation to the door?

A. Yes, it was a few feet behind the door, which was open.

Q. Behind - you mean ...?

A. As you walked into the room, the couch was directly in front of you, perhaps eight feet.

Q. So it is opposite the door? Is that a fair way of putting it?

A. Yes. Just as I'm facing the Court today.

Q. So if one was sitting on the couch would one have a view of the door?

A. Yes, sir.

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Q. Now, was Mr. Hendrix there?

A. Yes, he was.

Q. And did you talk with Mr. Hendrix?

A. Well, I attempted to conduct an interview, but there was a great deal of confusion, people going in and

out of the room, and it was not too successful.

Q. What did you do about the questions you asked and any answers he may have given?

A. I took notes, as I always do.

Q. On what?

A. Well, we - in our office we have a special notebook that we usually take on interviews and I had one of

those with me.

Q. Did you make notes?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. I am showing you what appears to be a notebook, or a scratch pad, and each of the pages is printed

"United Press International," Can you tell me anything about that?

A. Yes. This is my notebook. It is my writing.

Q. All right. Is there anything that you can look at there to tell you anything about this particular interview

on this day in that hotel room with Hendrix?

A. Yes, I believe so. I have about four or five interviews in this notebook. Yes; this one.

Q. Now, you are referring, witness, to this notebook and to the seventh page in the book?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. What does that disclose to you?

A. Should I read it out loud?

Q. No, I don't want you to read through it, but is there anything there to designate that these are the

notes that you used at this time?

A. Yes. It says "Jimi Hendrix. May 1st, 1969."

Discussion in the absence of the Jury and in the absence of the witness.

Q. Now, as you approached this hotel room, Miss Lawrence, can you tell His Honour and the Gentlemen of

the jury what you observed?

A. Well, I went up in an elevator and the room was close by the elevator and there were several young girls

in the hallway.

Q. You were admitted to the room?

A. Yes, I was.

Q. And you had the interview of sorts with Hendrix?

A. Yes, that's right.

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Q. Now, I think you told us something about the room, about the couch, and what else did you notice in the

room, if anything?

A. Well, there were several people there and there was some luggage on the floor, two suitcases and two or

three flight bags.

Q. Was this a day bed affair, or was there a bed in the room as well?

A. No, there was a regular bed.

Q. All right. What about the telephone while you were there?

A. It rang a number of times. It was, you know, a very confusing place. People kept coming in and out and

the telephone kept ringing. It was hard to conduct an interview.

Q. Did you decide at some point to leave?

A. I had been there for about half an hour and Hendrix seemed quite tired. He said he had had a lot of

photo sessions and it was hard to concentrate on talking to him with all the other interruptions, so I said to

him perhaps it would be better to do it another time, and he seemed to want people to leave, he didn't feel

well and wanted to lie down, so I said I would like to leave.

Q. Yes. What else happened?

A. Well, a few minutes before I could, you know, with some good manners say, "I think we should do it

another time," he said he didn't feel well, he had a stomach ache, and someone in the room suggested

Bromo-Seltzer, and at that point the door of the room was open and there were several young girls talking

among themselves outside it, and a girl stepped inside the room and handed Mr. Hendrix a bottle and said,

"This will make you feel better."

Q. Where were you when this happened?

A. I was sitting on the couch.

Q. And where was he when this happened?

A. He was standing by the door.

Q. What happened then?

A. He seemed annoyed at someone kind of coming in, and he said, "Yes, thank you," and threw the bottle

into the flight bag that was nearby.

Q. Did you see the bottle?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Can you tell us anything about it?

A. Well, it was a glass bottle, about the size of an aspirin bottle, with a yellow top.

Q. Can you in any way tell this Court anything about this girl, what she looked like?

A. She appeared to be perhaps 17 to 20, she had long blondish-brown hair and she wore a hippie-style

long dress.

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Q. What happened then?

A. Well, Hendrix threw the bottle into this flight bag and he kind of said to everybody, "Just please leave,"

and I said I would like to see him some other time, whenever he came back to Los Angeles, and then I said

goodbye and left.

Q. Did you subsequently - I don't want you to say where or how, but did you subsequently find out that

Hendrix had been arrested in Toronto?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Can you tell us when you found that out?

A. About a week later.

Q. Did you - subsequently to finding this out, did you see Hendrix?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. Where?

A. I saw him about three weeks after I had seen him at the hotel, when I was on a vacation trip to the

beach at San Diego. I had taken my younger sister down there and there was a pop concert in San Diego

and Hendrix and his group were among those that performed.

Q. Did you speak to him? Don't tell us what was said, but did you speak to him?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. As a result of your conversation with him, did you call someone on the telephone?

A. Yes.

Q. And who was it that you called?

A. I called his attorney.

Q. Who was that?

A. A Mr. Henry Steingarten in New York.

Q. That is this man sitting here?

A. That's right.

Q. This notebook which you have been shown and which you have identified as yours, did you give that to

someone?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Who was that?

A. I gave it to Mr. Steingarten.

Q. Miss Lawrence, do you take drugs?

A. No, I don't.

Q. Have you ever?

A. No, sir.

Q. Of any kind?

A. No, sir.

Q. Did you come here to give the evidence that you have now given at the request of Mr. Steingarten and I?

A. Yes, sir.

MR. O'DRISCOLL: Thank you. Your witness.

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CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. MALONE:

Q. Miss Lawrence, I understand that Mr. Hendrix gave a concert in the Los Angeles area at about this time?

A. Yes, sir. That's right.

Q. And do you recall whether your interview with him was before or after this concert?

A. It was shortly after.

Q. Isn't it usual for the papers and, presumably, the wire people to interview people before a concert, so

that they may benefit from the attendant publicity?

A. Well, it is not always that way. This was not a time-value story and most of the stories I do are not

time-value, so I would do them any time I could get an interview.

Q. But surely if there was just a matter of a few days between the concert and your proposed interview,

you would attempt to have it before the concert, wouldn't you, because it would be of more public interest?

A. You see, I write predominantly for our bureaus outside the United States and Mr. Hendrix is well known

throughout the world, and this was aimed at magazines, and they might feature it any time after an

interview - up to six months after. It had nothing to do with the concert.

Q. What kind of magazines do you refer to?

A. Anything from Paris Match to teenage publications in Germany; a wide variety.

Q. And they would include American teenage fan magazines?

A. No, because I don't write for America too much.

Q. You write for the wire service, I understand?

A. That's right.

Q. Do you have any control over who distributes; who the wire service distributes your material to?

A. As far as my particular department is concerned, I always write everything from the foreign viewpoint

rather than the American one, because our clients are almost always outside the United States.

Q. Miss Lawrence, you told my friend you came up here at the request of Mr. Hendrix's American Attorney

and my friend, Mr. ODriscoll. Are you also here in any professional capacity?

A. No sir.

Q. Do I understand correctly, that the notes which you have referred to really only indicate you were in the

room on that particular day with Mr. Hendrix and others?

A. Well, there are several pages of the questions that he answered for me.

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Q. I mean, as far as we are concerned today?

A. Yes. It deals with his work as a recording artist and performer.

Q. How many interviews would you have like this in the course of a usual week or month; can you give us an

idea?

A. Anywhere from one to 40.

Q. And can you tell by looking at your notebook how many you had in that particular week?

A. No, because usually a notebook would last me a month.

Q. Well, surely if it lasted a month - this is on the first, and the notebook would show how many there

were, wouldn't it?

A. I know this notebook, I tore it in half and used it for miscellaneous notes, and I know there are about six

in this particular notebook.

Q. When did you tear it in half; before you heard about this particular incident or after?

A. I tore it in half about last March. Often when I am going out of the office I am in rather a rush and I pick

up any notebook; it may be in consecutive order or not. I don't just use those notebooks for interviews, I

take it to write personal notes as well.

Q. It was about a week after this incident you heard about it?

A. Yes.

Q. How did you hear about it?

A. Being in the newspaper business, I read a Canadian newspaper that mentioned it.

Q. And it was about three weeks later you spoke to Mr. Hendrix about it?

A. It was about three weeks after I had spoken to him in Beverly Hills.

Q. Did you discuss the case with him at that time?

A. I went to see him backstage and asked if it was true.

Q. You had some conversation with him?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. And was this the first time that you attached any significance to this yellow bottle that you have referred

to?

A. Yes. I would say pretty much so.

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Q. And are you suggesting to His Honour and the Jury, of course, that with your busy schedule and the

number of interviews you do conduct, that you would remember an insignificant little trifle such as this?

A. Well, in my job it is important to know details and I have an excellent memory. I can remember interviews

and things that happened four or five years ago as well as things that happened yesterday.

Q. I understand on this occasion a number of things were given to Mr. Hendrix; isn't that so?

A. To Mr. Hendrix?

Q. Yes.

A. In the hotel room?

Q. Yes.

A. Not that I know about.

Q. Not that you know about or not that you remember?

A. Not that I know about.

Q. You just remember the little yellow capped bottle, do you?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you know what was in the bottle?

A. No, sir.

Q. How, Miss Lawrence, do you know that it was the bottle we are talking about in this trial?

A. Because when I saw Mr. Hendrix in San Diego I asked him what on earth had happened and he said he

had a glass bottle in his flight bag and he was stopped at Customs and they took the bottle and I said, "Is

that the bottle you had when I interviewed you?"

Q. And you also remember what the girl said?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Any doubt that these were her exact words - "Here, this will make you feel better."

A. Positive.

Q. Absolutely sure, three weeks later, that this was the conversation which, incidentally, corresponds

exactly with Mr. Hendrix.

A. Many times when I go to an interview, I interview extremely famous people who would not like me to be

writing things down, it would make them nervous. The fact that I take notes is strictly for my own help or to

back things up that I have in my file.

Q. As I understand it, you attempted to have an interview with Mr. Hendrix and this was obviously proving

not successful?

A. That's right.

Q. For a number of reasons there were a number of people around and he was not feeling well and so on?

A. Yes.

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Q. And somebody said, "Why don't you take a Bromo-Seltzer?"

A. That's right.

Q. I am sure that you can tell us who that was, with your good memory.

A. Yes, I can.

Q. Who was that?

A. As I can remember it was a tall boy, about 20. I have no idea what his name was.

Q. And it was at this point that Mr. Hendrix indicated that everybody should leave, he would like to lay

down?

A. That's right.

Q. How did she know he wasn't feeling well?

A. Because she was standing in the doorway with a number of other girls and they could hear everything

that was going on in the room.

Q. The door was open?

A. Yes.

Q. Was there anything to stop them from coming in?

A. No. Except it is rather usual, among the pop people I have interviewed, that there are always people

hanging about.

Q. Did they tell them to stay out?

A. Sometimes security can be very lax and they don't want to hurt their fans.

Q. Are you suggesting they were standing around the door eavesdropping on the conversation?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. I see. Now, as you are aware now, the substance in this yellow topped bottle turned out to be heroin.

Isn't that right?

A. That is what I am told.

Q. Somebody told you that. Other than by using heroin, can you think of any way this would make Mr.

Hendrix feel better?

A. I am afraid I don't know too much about heroin.

Q. You must know that they don't have the same properties as Bromo-Seltzer.

A. No, of course not.

Q. Am I misunderstanding your evidence when you connect the statement that somebody suggested that

he take a Bromo with this girl giving him the heroin; is there some connection there?

A. It is very usual for fans to give pop people gifts.

Q. Heroin?

A. Yes. Drugs, scarves, whatever; anything they think that person might like or anything that might get

them personal attention.

Q. Including heroin?

A. That's right.

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Q. Can you name me one other instance?

A. Yes, I can. This summer I went to London and some girls that I had addressed at a fan-club meeting for

the Beatles asked me to deliver a package of things to them. I didn't get the package in time, so when I

came back from London it was at my house and I opened it and I opened some of the letters and I found

things like stamped envelopes, pens, pencils, and I also found something that appeared to be LSD - it was

in a sugar cube, so I presume that is what it was, and I also found some marijuana cigarettes, so I would

consider this to be pretty typical of things I have seen a number of times.

Q. I was asking you for an example of somebody giving an entertainer heroin.

A. I don't know of a person giving an entertainer heroin.

Q. It would be pretty difficult to know.

A. That's right. I wouldn't know it if I saw it.

Q. This girl was 17 years old, approximately?

A. I would say in her late teens, yes.

Q. And she was prepared, apparently, to give up three decks of heroin.

A. Yes, that is apparently... if that is what you say it is.

Q. Do you have any idea what heroin sells for in the street in the Los Angeles area?

A. I would imagine it is expensive. I have never heard the exact price, no.

Discussion in the absence of the Jury

Q. Miss Lawrence, as a result of your appearing at this hearing, are you likely to benefit personally as a

result of any publicity arising from it?

A. No, I don't think so. In fact, I hoped I would not be mentioned in that publicity.

MR. MALONE: I have no further questions, Your Honour.

MR. O'DRISCOLL: I have no re-examination of this witness, Your Honour.

THE COURT: I just have one question. Are you a permanent employee of the Press Company, or are you a

freelance employee?

THE WITNESS: I am a permanent employee.

I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and accurate transcript of my notes to the best of my skill and

ability.

OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER